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 Post subject: Sent by Earth
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2007, 15:35 
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I've started this thread on IIDB, only to realise that I could use more anthropological information about this tribe and their practice. Hex?


This is an excerpt from the book Sent by Earth by Alice Walker:

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It is said that in the Babemba tribe of South Africa, when a person acts irresponsibly or unjustly, he is placed in the center of the village, alone and unfettered.

All work ceases, and every man, woman and child in the village gathers in a large circle around the accused individual. Then each person in the tribe speaks to the accused, one at a time, about all the good things the person in the center of the circle has done in his lifetime. Every incident, every experience that can be recalled with any detail and accuracy is recounted. All his positive attributes, good deeds, strengths and kindnesses are recited carefully and at length.

The tribal ceremony often lasts several days. At the end, the tribal circle is broken, a joyous celebration takes place, and the person is symbolically and literally welcomed back into the tribe.


I'm curious as to what you think of this approach to dealing with wrongdoers.


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Well ... In a real quick search this morning I haven't hit this sort of 'correcting approach'. But I did find this:

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Young men who would have formerly won kudos in battle, now do so by publicly washing and ironing their clothes in the centre of the village! (pp 130)

Anthropological Problems in North-Eastern Rhodesia, by A. I. Richards, Africa: Journal of the International African Institute © 1932


Apparently, from what I've got so far, they couldn't raise cattle due to tse-tse flies, and headmen were rather brutal (mutilations as punishments) before European contact (which apparently ruined what economy/status/control they had in the area before). I'm going to guess that the 'bolstering' that Walker refers to is a modern adaptation (not a bad one, but reading the stuff from 1920's and 30's doesn't sound so nice), and thus, perhaps not as anthropologically sound as an answer to 'How do we reclaim a proper relationship to the world?'

Then again, since it's a modern synthesis between Ba-Bemba cultural views with the (perhaps) less violent/more economic cultures of colonialism? :dontknow:

I'll see if I can find more later ...

Edit Reason: Wacky quote tags ...


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I think shaming like that can be effective in small groups moreso than in a large industrial society 'cause it's more personal, everyone knows everyone.




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The only references I can soo to this practice is the exact same quote, quoted over and over again...

I'd like people with access to j-stor to let us in on more info...

It sounds great, though. I mean, we disipline our son that way, some of the time...


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