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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2008, 22:00 
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Indiana Man Sentenced For Role In Cross-Burning

WASHINGTON, Jan. 4 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A federal judge today sentenced Kyle Shroyer of Muncie, Ind., to serve 15 months in prison for his role in burning an eight-foot cross in front of a biracial family's home, ...

Defendant Kyle Shroyer admitted in September 2007 that he and another man conspired to violate the civil rights of a woman and her three biracial children by burning the cross at their home in Muncie, Ind., in March 2006. ...

"Cross burning is a despicable act of hatred and intolerance that has no place in a free society," said Grace Chung Becker, Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division. "The federal government will continue to vigorously prosecute hate crimes, and today's sentence sends the message that those who commit criminal acts will pay a price."

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Note, they don't say if he'd had a few beers and was just trying to impress his girlfriend ...

:cwm21:

No question here it's a hate crime rather than an 'off color prank' ...


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Well, in their defense, there's a longer history with cross burnings than with backing pick-ups over stars while drunk...

(did I phrase that wrong?)


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Well ... Pooh may take it the wrong way, given her glitteratti sort of environs ... :wink:

And, that's true ...

But, if a hate crime is a hate crime is a hate crime, is religious-based hate more/less important than racial-based hate?


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Take it to ethics or something!

Quick response, something you have no control over is more evil to be hated for than something you do.

not that there's 'real' control over 'beliefs', but I think most people would understand what I mean...


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I see the two incidents referenced as apples and oranges. One was a case of drunken vandalism against a symbol, where the other was damage to a symbol as a means of instilling fear.

Under most circumstances, I would hold that the desecration of any religious symbol is an act of a hate crime, and should be treated as such. Vandalizing a synagogue, damaging a mosque, breaking statues in a church, they are all the same thing. Whether you burn the Islamic flag, a pentacle, a star of David, or a cross it is all the same.

If the intent is to terrorize a person, making a personal attack on them, such as doing so in front of their house, it is much more damaging and hateful.

Both should be punished, the latter more than the former because it is a specific crime than a generalized one.


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