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PostPosted: 07 Jun 2010, 09:19 
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Surprising. A Christian Bishop speaking truth. Hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZM3FXlLMug

Hell, or any place of otherworldly punishment, is a demonstrably immoral construct that any moral God would never create or need.

If you answer these honestly, you will agree.

Is it just for a man to only be able to sin for 120 years and then have to spend eternity in punishment and torture?

Punishment is given to change actions and attitudes in character. Repentance, in other words.
Is it just to punish or torture if these cannot be accomplished?

Would death then not be the moral thing to do?

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Yeah well to be honest the original Jewish version of hell made a lot more sense, the Christian version of hell is ridiculous.

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The Dagda wrote:
Yeah well to be honest the original Jewish version of hell made a lot more sense, the Christian version of hell is ridiculous.


I agree.

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The Dagda wrote:
Yeah well to be honest the original Jewish version of hell made a lot more sense, the Christian version of hell is ridiculous.


What is the original Jewish version of hell?


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HavenMage wrote:
The Dagda wrote:
Yeah well to be honest the original Jewish version of hell made a lot more sense, the Christian version of hell is ridiculous.


What is the original Jewish version of hell?


It is literally a place apart or furthest from God, a sometimes temporary location where the dead went who were to be judged whether good or bad. Of course the Jews did have a rather limited notion of who could be with God. Look up Gehenna or Sheol.

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Sheol (pronounced "Sheh-ol"), in Hebrew שאול (She'ol), is the "grave", or "pit" or "abyss"[1][2].

In Judaism She'ol[3] is the place of spiritual purification or punishment for the wicked dead in Judaism, a site at the greatest possible distance from heaven. According to most Jewish sources, the period of purification or punishment is limited to only 12 months and every shabbath day is excluded from punishment.[4] After this the soul will ascend to Olam Ha-Ba, the world to come, or will be destroyed if it is severely wicked.[5] The place of spiritual purification or punishment for the wicked dead in Judaism is not called 'Hell' but referred to either as Gehinnom or She'ol.[6] It is a figurative name for a place where the dead were believed to be forgathered.

The word "hades" (= underworld) was substituted for "sheol" when the Hebrew scriptures - by decree - were translated into Greek (see Septuagint) in ancient Alexandria around 200 BCE (see Hellenistic Judaism).

In the Old Testament Sheol is the common destination of both the righteous and the unrighteous flesh, as recounted in Ecclesiastes and Job. The New Testament (written in Greek) also uses "Hades" to refer to the abode of the dead. (Revelation 20:13) The belief that those in Sheol awaited the resurrection either in comfort (in the bosom of Abraham) or in torment is reflected in the story of the New Testament of Lazarus and Dives.[citation needed] English translations of the Hebrew scriptures have variously rendered the word Sheol as "Hell"[7] or "the grave".[8]
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Eternal damnation has no meaning in The Jewish afterlife. Nor really do they have much of a detailed concept of an afterlife, you are either dead and gone or awaiting judgement or or you are with God, to talk about anything else would be meaningless.

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