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PostPosted: 14 Jun 2010, 15:42 
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Who should have died? God the Father or God the Son?

John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

In our human world, it is custom for fathers to readily die for their children.
Given the choice, I do not know of any man that would not willingly save his son’s life by giving up his own. After all, we live for our children.
We often say that the sons should bury the fathers and consider it a great breach of the norm and an injustice for fathers to have to bury their sons.

If, on earth as it is in heaven has any meaningful truth to it, should God the Father not be the one to willingly die for His son?

If God is to be our example, are most of us ignoring His example and in that way breaking the first commandment by putting our own desires over His and thus placing some other idea above Him?

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Yet, doesn't the idea of him giving his son also represent that depth of his devotion to human kind that he is willing to give his son in sacrifice to the greater good?

Overall, I think it is a matter of perspective. Which "life" do you value more?

Can "God" die? If not, then the question is a moot point...If yes, then is it a matter of "Him" dying to protect his "son", or is the example of his sacrificing his "son" to give a sacrifice of greater value?

Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son to show his devotion to God. By biblical standards, it would seem to show that sacrificing a son is a much more potent form of devotion....


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HavenMage wrote:
Yet, doesn't the idea of him giving his son also represent that depth of his devotion to human kind that he is willing to give his son in sacrifice to the greater good?

Overall, I think it is a matter of perspective. Which "life" do you value more?

Can "God" die? If not, then the question is a moot point...If yes, then is it a matter of "Him" dying to protect his "son", or is the example of his sacrificing his "son" to give a sacrifice of greater value?

Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son to show his devotion to God. By biblical standards, it would seem to show that sacrificing a son is a much more potent form of devotion....


You might note though that God did not allow it.
You might also note that if the son is killed, the quotes above become impossible to follow.
If on earth as it is in heaven, does that mean that you would have your son step up to die, or would you?

As to the idea of blood sacrifice----

Are you willing to look up these and comment on our salvation without the blood or Jesus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp9XIh-BPio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHP-f-_F9U

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