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PostPosted: 09 Aug 2010, 10:26 
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What is the price of a virgin child?

The R C C has in the past sold indulgences of various types.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN__LdCFQFU

Before the reformation, a man could buy forgiveness for just about any sin.
The higher the sin, the higher the price.
That practice continues today.

With all the Catholic sex scandals of late, and with the Vatican seeming to protect priests from secular law, I wondered just how much the Pope and Bishops were charging, in the way of indulgences, from priest for forgiveness for raping a virgin boy or girl.

I know that the Vatican, as well as other Christian churches pays well to the parents of these children to shut them up and make them go away without prosecuting, but wondered just what penalties or price they asked from the sinners. The priest that is.

I also wondered what indulgence the Pope would ask of Himself for collusion, in facilitating the freedom of these perpetrators and pedophiles and allowing them to offend again and again.

Since the Church seems to be getting away with these crimes with impunity by indulgence, I think all R C should be curious as to the indulgences required by the Church so that all believers will know up front just how much a virgin rape is worth.

I know that most financial settlements from the church, Catholic or Protestant, come with a non disclosure clause but would invite any that have profited from the rape of their children to anonymously let us know as we would not want those parents who will profit in the future from the rape of their child to be short changed by the Church.

Help your fellow Christians and Catholics gain full value for their children’s virginity and abuse by stepping up and telling us how much you received.

It is possible that none will tell us the price they received, for fear of losing this dirty money, so I would ask all other Christians and Catholics---

How much is your child’s virginity and good mental health worth to you?

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P S. This thread was born of another issue speaking to bringing the Pope and others to justice for pedophilia but most responders, here and elsewhere, had little to no care or concern for the victims and seemed to think that it would be impossible to get justice because politicians and officials were too cowardly to enforce the law, so I thought it my duty to the victims to insure that they received the full going rate and payment for their virginity and good mental health.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9f82BX3aNI


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PostPosted: 11 Aug 2010, 03:18 
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There two Mafias in Italy clearly.

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PostPosted: 11 Aug 2010, 11:12 
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The Dagda wrote:
There two Mafias in Italy clearly.


I do not see much dif either.

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PostPosted: 12 Aug 2010, 03:33 
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There two Mafias in Italy clearly. There are two Mafias in Italy clearly.


I do not see much dif either.

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Hehe sorry for some odd reason it bugged me that I couldn't edit that to say there are. :D

Shocking abuse of power really, don't think anyone would argue with that, what makes it all the more troubling is that these people are the moral conscience of one of the largest religious followings in the world.

The Catholic Churches history is laden with the moral turpitude that one would ironically expect only from a bloated and corpulent antithesis of Christianity. From the inquisitions to the indifference to Nazi atrocities to the extent of paling up with Hitler, they have a great deal of baggage. Apparently your sinfulness or lack of it is related to how wealthy you are. The worst thing I think was politicians caught in scandals, often at the very least an abuse of their power and more often criminal to boot, could pay not to be charged for them. Unbelievable corruption really. God apparently is a business dependant on financial transaction just like Jesus when he through the money lenders/changers out of the temple. :wink: :cheeky:

Here's a nice link to the worst Popes in history

From the Murdering Pirate Pope who was eventually hacked down by his own Vatican guard after a murderous rampage, to the sordid and on to the serial sodomite, to the ridiculous. :D

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-pop ... istory.php

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It’s undeniable that Otho de Lagery, who became Pope Urban II in 1088, was a talented diplomat and successful leader, responsible for establishing the modern Roman Curia and supporting reforms of the clergy. What he is most often remembered for, however, is his unfortunate role in launching a bloody holy war against Muslims that has since come to be known as The First Crusade.

In 1095, Byzantine Emperor Alexios I requested Urban’s aid in fighting off the Turks, who had conquered most of Anatolia. Urban responded favorably by using his remarkable rhetorical skills to preach “Just War” – a holy, God-ordained crusade to liberate the eastern churches and the Holy Land from Muslim rule. By appealing to Catholic anger over the rumored (and often unfairly trumped-up) atrocities committed by the invading Turks, and by guaranteeing remission of sins to those who would participate in the fight, Urban was able to organize a large-scale uprising of piously outraged soldiers of Christ.

The religiously-sanctioned First Crusade, while successful in defeating Muslim forces in Anatolia and the Holy Land, was very costly in terms of casualties. Not only was there a huge loss of lives on both sides, but the horrible offenses committed by enraged Christians against Jews, Muslims, and even members of the “schismatic” Eastern church will always be a bloody stain on the pages of church history.


Incidentally the atrocities they are talking about include sacking the enemy wagon train after defeating them and roasting women and children on spits and eating them (The knights were starving literally after their supply lines failing), the sacking of Jerusalem where it is said the streets literally ran with blood when the knights went on a rampage indiscriminately sacking and killing Christian churches and ministers and Muslim and Jewish ones alike.

The Pope himself when asked by pious Knights if it was right to kill the Saracen, since The Bible clearly said though shalt not kill, after consideration declared it was ok to kill as long as they weren't Christian. Stupendous stuff. :)

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PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 09:35 
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http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm

We are on the same page.

I hope you are at other sites fighting for our cause.
Your knowledge and insight should not be wasted.
For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

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Greatest I am wrote:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm

We are on the same page.

I hope you are at other sites fighting for our cause.
Your knowledge and insight should not be wasted.
For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

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Other sites such as?

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PostPosted: 16 Aug 2010, 09:08 
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The Dagda wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm

We are on the same page.

I hope you are at other sites fighting for our cause.
Your knowledge and insight should not be wasted.
For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

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DL


Other sites such as?


There are many.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&rls=c ... =&gs_rfai=

I myself are on a few. Sometimes too many.

It seems that all one need do is Google my name and my locations come up.
Some try to attack me and get me banned just because I wander around to more than a few.

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PostPosted: 16 Aug 2010, 23:45 
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Greatest I am wrote:
The Dagda wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm

We are on the same page.

I hope you are at other sites fighting for our cause.
Your knowledge and insight should not be wasted.
For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

Regards
DL


Other sites such as?


There are many.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&rls=c ... =&gs_rfai=

I myself are on a few. Sometimes too many.

It seems that all one need do is Google my name and my locations come up.
Some try to attack me and get me banned just because I wander around to more than a few.

Regards
DL


I prefer atheist sites generally, a little more scope than just Christians vs atheists or just Evolution vs Creationists. Richard Dawkins was good, broad, large membership, lots of fundie nutcases to poke fun at. But they kinda messed up there. There are some around here but most of them are bolt holes from RD and thus shit for the most part, if RD had a lot of trolls you can imagine how many places that are refuges from it have. Shame since it closed there's a real paucity of decent atheist sites In My Opinion.

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PostPosted: 18 Aug 2010, 11:37 
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When a believer site tolerates me without banning me, I prefer to go there because a doctor goes where the patients are and not where doctors hang out.

That is where the evil lives and I fight evil beliefs.

It can be both frustrating and gratifying when I turn one to sanity.

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PostPosted: 18 Aug 2010, 11:55 
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Greatest I am wrote:
When a believer site tolerates me without banning me, I prefer to go there because a doctor goes where the patients are and not where doctors hang out.

That is where the evil lives and I fight evil beliefs.

It can be both frustrating and gratifying when I turn one to sanity.

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Hehe.

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