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PostPosted: 23 Sep 2010, 08:27 
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Man. Created for slavery in both heaven and hell.

God created man.
God then created the law’s that we are to follow, thus creating moral evil.

Isaiah 45;7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

He told Adam and Eve to obey His command to not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil under penalty of death. When Adam and Eve disobeyed and reached out for this essential knowledge, the knowledge of higher education and morals, He imposed His threatened sentence not only on the guilty but also the innocent, all of mankind.

The offspring of man were sentenced to bear the iniquity of our first father, Adam, contradicting---

Ezekiel 18;20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

God is also condemning those who have not sinned. The completely innocent.

Roman 9;11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;

In other words, He commanded us to live without a moral sense and basically remain un-educated and as dumb as the lesser animals. You will know that most issues and topics of higher education all have values of good and evil thus we were restricted from engaging in their study.

We were ordered to stay dumb and be slaved to all of Gods commands.


God gives man free will and dominion on earth. The power to rule ourselves under our own choices.
If we do as ordered, and do not take dominion, we are offered heaven. A place where we must continue to do as ordered or we are banished to eternal torture in hell.
If we do not follow God’s commands and take his gift of dominion in any other way other than what is ordered by God, we are banished to everlasting torture in hell.

In other words, if in heaven we are slaves to God. If on earth or in hell, we are slaves to God. If we exercise our free choice we are condemned to be slaves in hell.

Where is this freedom that God gave man?
It seems that His given freedom says that we are only free to follow His commands.
That is slavery hidden under a false premise of His calling us free.

Is that freedom in your opinion or slavery ?

Is freedom in both heaven and hell the exactly same thing, follow God’s rules; except for the purposeless cruelty, torture and burning in hell?

Islam vs. Christianity.
The Koran, as opposed to the Bible, seems to be more honest and states up front that Allah wants men to be slaves. Is the God of the Bible hypocritical in lying and saying that man is free?

Does God want to keep us dumb and un-educated by withholding most higher knowledge?

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Greatest I am wrote:
Does God want to keep us dumb and un-educated by withholding most higher knowledge?


You know, on the face of it, it seems that Yahweh had it all set up that men would be slaves, very much in the 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' manner.

If the 'fruit' had not been eaten, humans would have been slaves because they wouldn't have known what to do without Yahweh's directions, and once they did eat the fruit, they were cast from the garden and the 'curses' of Yahweh were upon them forever more. If they wanted the curses raised, (and to avoid destruction via floods and such) they had to do Yahweh's bidding.

Even in the 'redemption' of Jesus' self-sacrifice to Yahweh, Christians are now essentially to be 'owned' by Jesus, who is, of course, a version of Yahweh.

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Hex wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Does God want to keep us dumb and un-educated by withholding most higher knowledge?


You know, on the face of it, it seems that Yahweh had it all set up that men would be slaves, very much in the 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' manner.

If the 'fruit' had not been eaten, humans would have been slaves because they wouldn't have known what to do without Yahweh's directions, and once they did eat the fruit, they were cast from the garden and the 'curses' of Yahweh were upon them forever more. If they wanted the curses raised, (and to avoid destruction via floods and such) they had to do Yahweh's bidding.

Even in the 'redemption' of Jesus' self-sacrifice to Yahweh, Christians are now essentially to be 'owned' by Jesus, who is, of course, a version of Yahweh.


Good discernment of a very sick God.

Have you seen this great example of a Christian spokesman joke?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qvOifik ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2YwiIJw ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgfyVZEHcLQ

Further evidence of what theists know. Or not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/us/28 ... r=1&src=tp

If this is their best then we know why Christianity is on it’s way out.

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